ESS - employee self service - direct deposit banking drop down

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egagel
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    I work at Norton Healthcare in Louisville, KY. We are having issues with employees using the drop down banking information. Some of the information (routing numbers) it stores is incorrect, therefore it is becoming an issue because many employees are not getting their direct deposits....

    Does anyone know how we can remove/disable the drop down in ESS so the employees have to manually key everything from their checks into the system?

    Thanks

    Elizabeth
    LisaN
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      We modified the directdepositlib.js file in "xhrnet\directdeposit\jslib" to make the field read only. The employee has to select from the dropdown. If their bank isn't listed they are instructed to contact our HRIS department. HRIS will enter the bank on PR12.4.
      thank you.
      LisaN
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        Elizabeth, I should add that our payroll dept and HRIS worked together to clean up the list. HRIS also updates the list with the FedWire data (they are suppose to update quarterly).
        egagel
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          Our company is too big and paperless to key them manually, we do this for some employees sometimes, if they cannot get to a PC for the next payroll, after the direct deposit has already rejected and they did not get their pay. We need to have the drop down completley removed, if possible, due to the many rejections we get every payroll....The drop down holds all banking information entered, no matter correct or incorrect, most employees assume it is correct information because it automatically pulls the routing number with the name of the banking institution....
          egagel
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            We have 100's of new employees every week, therefore good and bad information is saved on the drop down daily. We would have to update the information daily....
            LisaN
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              We originally allowed EEs to manually enter their data but had too much bad data being entered. Using the FedWire data cleaned up all our bank data and added banks that weren't present in our list. Now the only banks we need to enter are banks not in FedWire, which isn't very many, mostly outside the US.

              https://www.fededirectory.frb.org/download.cfm
              egagel
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                Ok, I will pass this information on to my manager and see what she thinks! Thanks so much for all the information, I really appreciate it!! Have a great day!!!


                Elizabeth Gagel
                Louisville, KY
                Shane Jones
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                  Hello ....

                  Question on the: https://www.fededirectory.frb.org/download.cfm. site..... I am wondering if I might be able to use the file to automate the process of maintaining the list?

                  Anyone know if the list is create in a format that could just be loaded? Or better yet if they offer a lookup because maybe I could create a process to check for vailidity of any entry....

                  Thoughts?
                  Shane Jones
                  Tools: HR, Payroll, Benefits, PFI, Smart Office, BSI, Portal and Self-Service
                  Systems: Lawson, Open Hire, Kronos, Crystal Reporting, SumTotal Learning
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                  Venkat
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                    We have a recurring job to download the FED file from this site, parse it and update PR12.4. The file is a string of bytes and the layout is also available on the site.

                    We have also modified ESS to change the order of fields entered. The employees enter the routing number first (no drop downs) and this is validated using PR12.4 and bank name is displayed.
                    Shane Jones
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                      I think I am going to pull together a process flow that will download the file and maintain the fed list on pr12.4. This should work well with PFI.....

                      Process will review our list and associate entries to Inform on issues found...
                      Shane Jones
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                      egagel
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                        Thanks so much for the info above, would you mind if our IS department contacted you for information on how to implement the changes you mentioned above to our ESS screen? If so, please contact me, Thanks so much!

                        Elizabeth Gagel
                        Payroll Coordinator
                        Norton Healthcare
                        502-629-8336
                        502-629-8201 (fax)
                        Shane Jones
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                          I have created a process that maintains the list of ACH Banks using the Fed Site. The flow does the following:

                          * downloads the file (System Command to run VBS script),
                          * parses each line of the downloaded file,
                          * compares the bank ID against your records on PR12.4,
                          * adds the bank when the bank is missing from your system, and
                          * renames the bank when your system has the routing number with a different name

                          I would think that this would handle most of the issues listed in this thread.
                          Shane
                          Shane Jones
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                          Systems: Lawson, Open Hire, Kronos, Crystal Reporting, SumTotal Learning
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                          egagel
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                            Thanks so much!

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                            Mary Porter
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                              LisaN,
                              would you be able to share where in the code they made the Bank field readonly? I talked to someone else that is on an older version and they said theirs
                              was set up to require them to use the dropdown as a vanilla setup.
                              Tim Cochrane
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                                Look in lrs/webdocs/lawson/xhrnet/directeposit/jslib/directdepositlib.js. We commented out the drop-down years ago for the same reason...no good way to verifiy routing number and such. we only display their current DD info. we added a message & link that says "Contact Corp PR to establish DD account", the link takes them to our PR group. We also run ESS for ~30,000 employees (out of 250,000), so it's do-able for large number.

                                "Vanilla is only a state of mind"
                                Tim Cochrane - Principal LM/IPA Consultant
                                Mary Porter
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                                  Is there any chance you could share where exactly in the directdepositlib.js you commented this out? I'm not a programmer and I can fake my way through some of the scripts but
                                  I'm not having any luck with this one.
                                  Margie Gyurisin
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                                    I am not sure but does the configuration setting mentioned in teh installation guide get you to where you want to be.

                                    This setting controls whether the employee is
                                    allowed to manually enter a new bank name and
                                    manual_bank_entry
                                    routing number when adding a direct deposit
                                    account in the Direct Deposit task. The default
                                    value of this setting is "true". When set to "false",
                                    the system will require the employee to select
                                    from a list of predefined banks set up on PR12.
                                    4. For Canadian Direct Deposit, this setting
                                    controls manual entry of the institution, institution
                                    number, and transit number. For U.K. Direct
                                    Deposit, this setting controls manual entry of the
                                    bank/building society and sort code.
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                                    Mary Porter
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                                      What version did you find that in? - Actually I found it in the 10.0.2 Installation guide - and I modified the emss.config.xml file as instructed and it worked!
                                      I so owe you a beer if I ever have the opportunity to meet you! Thanks Margie!
                                      Margie Gyurisin
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                                        Awesome......Will you going to Inforum in the fall? I will track you down.
                                        Mary Porter
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                                          Hoping to go to Inforum - waiting to see if there is $$ available.
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